I guess I should be saying something very snarky or at lease bend a metal bar with my teeth but I just wanted to acknowledge that you actually did listen to some of those old stories. And for the record(not that it matters) the coal stove was free standing and cast iron, God knbows what it weighed and she slipped her key ring over her fingers before she decked the asshole. Jeez I feel like its my duty to go out and pummel someone, any suggestions..................... I guess there is somethuing to this DNA stuff Signed by you know who